thallus inapparent, apothecia clustered small to large flat, disk black-brown, rims medium to dark red-brown thin even smooth, no soredia/isidia visible anywhere, epihymenium brown K- or yellow in places (contamination?), hymenium hyaline clear, hypothecium hyaline to brownish at base in one old apothecium, spores 8 per ascus type-A development strongly Physcia-type and gaining dark torus early (esp. in water) but later lumina inflating and finally losing apical (but not septal) thickenings at end at least when overmature 22-28x5-12um average but one seen as large as 30x13um